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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Nov 03, 2019 16:17    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

With Impacts = 0 you will also lose sound effects on bumps and jumps + those heavy hits which are not that rare smile, that is why I recommend to mute or turn volume down just those WAVs that are used for bumpstops.
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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Nov 03, 2019 19:21    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Ok Jan, I agree.

That's just another of RBR's flaws when it comes to the sound system.
They should have separated the bump stops from "the other" impacts.

Looks like a shortcut the developers took to save a little coding time.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Nov 03, 2019 19:55    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

2019-11-03
* updated model of Skoda Fabia R5 evo to version 1.1 by Ha3aP (physics unchanged)

See Ha3aP's blog for changes.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Nov 03, 2019 22:12    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:
Ok Jan, I agree.

That's just another of RBR's flaws when it comes to the sound system.
They should have separated the bump stops from "the other" impacts.

Looks like a shortcut the developers took to save a little coding time.

I hope for FMOD implementation in the future, ideally just for the engine stuff while keeping the original sound effects. It shouldn't be that difficult and it would certainly move RBR to the next level in this area.
Sorry for offtopic, just dreaming... smile

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Nov 05, 2019 20:18    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:
The RGT is specified as 3.4 kg/hp, and this is exactly what we have.

This applies to the Fiat 124 RGT, the Porsche GT3, and to the upcoming Aston Martin.


Equal opportunity is always good! But there is a slight nuance. There are very few participants who want to drive RGT cars. Therefore, in the championships I have to compete with R5 cars on the Porsche GT3 RGT. Although I am not the fastest pilot, at least I sometimes manage to impose a fight. With the advent of new physics at GT3, the mass of the car increases by 150 kg, which is quite critical. (That's why I'm upset) And it would be great if the GT3 RGT appeared in two versions. (second option is http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/porsche-997-gt3-rgt)
And let the organizers themselves set a restriction on cars.
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Nov 05, 2019 23:14    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Alexander's choice seems good to me, because I am also affected by the RGT regulations in some championship. But Workbee has the last word.
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mi Nov 06, 2019 11:08    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Understood. But that doesn't convince me.

The RGT are not supposed to compete against the R5 AWD cars.
I suppose that on tarmac you may be able to beat them, but on loose surface, no way.

My arguments still stand, I prefer having 5 RGT cars competing in a RGT championship.

If I would start to make custom physics for each driver, NGP6 would finally end in a big mess.
What about making WRCs with really huge steering angles ? Or arcady handbrakes ? Or RGTs with AWD, as the French guys did ??
Maybe you get the point. wink

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mi Nov 06, 2019 19:17    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:
Understood. But that doesn't convince me.
The RGT are not supposed to compete against the R5 AWD cars.


I think Richard Tuthill would not agree with you.

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:

My arguments still stand, I prefer having 5 RGT cars competing in a RGT championship.


No one is against it.

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If I would start to make custom physics for each driver, NGP6 would finally end in a big mess.
What about making WRCs with really huge steering angles ? Or arcady handbrakes ? Or RGTs with AWD, as the French guys did ??
Maybe you get the point.


Nobody asks you about it.

I just asked you to make another version of the physics for the Porsche 911GT3 RS 4.0 RGT, and you have currently done the physics for the Porsche 911GT3 RS 3.8 RGT (which is actually a redesigned Porsche 911GT3 CUP 3.8 RGT).

Maybe you get the point? smile
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mi Nov 06, 2019 20:09    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

AlDrive hat folgendes geschrieben:
I just asked you to make another version of the physics for the Porsche 911GT3 RS 4.0 RGT, and you have currently done the physics for the Porsche 911GT3 RS 3.8 RGT (which is actually a redesigned Porsche 911GT3 CUP 3.8 RGT).

Maybe you get the point? smile


Yes, got it.

But I guess there is a misunderstanding.

No matter whether it is the 3.8 or the 4.0 model, or Cup, or whatever you take as the base car.

If it is an RGT, weight and power restrictions would still apply, that is 3.4 kg/hp.
So I just can't give you an 500 hp, 1200 kg car.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mi Nov 06, 2019 20:26    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:


But I guess there is a misunderstanding.

So I just can't give you an 500 hp, 1200 kg car.


As I understand it, you need proof that the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997) RGT participated in races with parameters of 500 hp, 1200 kg.
In that case, would you consider creating another version of physics.
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mi Nov 06, 2019 20:48    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

AlDrive hat folgendes geschrieben:
WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:


But I guess there is a misunderstanding.

So I just can't give you an 500 hp, 1200 kg car.


As I understand it, you need proof that the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997) RGT participated in races with parameters of 500 hp, 1200 kg.
In that case, would you consider creating another version of physics.


As I understand it, Bee would need proof that the car could enter in official RGT category TODAY, not in 2017.
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Do Nov 07, 2019 13:57    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Well, it's not about really proving anything.

You simply can't find any entry of a 1200kg/500hp Porsche in a current RGT result list.

That's 2.4 kg/hp compared to the 4.3 kg/hp of the R5 class (and 3.4 RGT).
Not fair in any way.
Such a Porsche will outclass these R5's on tarmac by far.

We all know that power to weight ratio is not everything, as you can hardly get more than 300hp to the ground on one driven axle (without traction control).
So on loose surfaces, the story would have a different outcome.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Do Nov 07, 2019 20:04    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:


You simply can't find any entry of a 1200kg/500hp Porsche in a current RGT result list.
Not fair in any way.


I realized there will be no other Porsche 911 RGT physics. This answer is enough for me!

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:

We all know that power to weight ratio is not everything, as you can hardly get more than 300hp to the ground on one driven axle (without traction control).
So on loose surfaces, the story would have a different outcome.


For starters, the smaller mass of the car is always much better, the post is powerful, but heavy. A racing car must be light.

Secondly, in a 911, more than 65% of the car’s mass is on the rear axle, and this in terms of power is much closer to all-wheel drive than to the front.

And thirdly, I do not know any internal combustion engines that give maximum power from idle.

Thanks anyway, NGP 6 is very good. I will not distract you from work in the future.
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Fr Nov 08, 2019 13:52    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

AlDrive hat folgendes geschrieben:
WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:


You simply can't find any entry of a 1200kg/500hp Porsche in a current RGT result list.
Not fair in any way.


I realized there will be no other Porsche 911 RGT physics. This answer is enough for me!


You can get different physics if you provide a link to trustworthy data specifiying the empty weight of the RGT Porsche.

I would then adjust the power to adhere to the current RGT spec, which is 3.4 kg/hp.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Sa Nov 09, 2019 00:18    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:


You can get different physics if you provide a link to trustworthy data specifiying the empty weight of the RGT Porsche.

I would then adjust the power to adhere to the current RGT spec, which is 3.4 kg/hp.


I somewhere found data where the weight of the Porsche 911 RGT was about 1200 kg. But where - I do not remember.

But as a confirmation of my words that I did not dream about it (the video is not an official document, but still)

https://www.tuthillporsche.com/blog/chris-harris-gravel-tuthill-porsche-997-r-gt/

The video says that the power is 350 hp and is limited by a restrictor of 39 mm (5 minutes 30 seconds)

PS: unfortunately this video has been blocked by the copyright holder, but can be found in alternative sources

In the meantime, I will look for a reliable source
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Sa Nov 09, 2019 08:53    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

That fits.

I have an article regarding the 39mm/350hp stuff.

And I have sources stating that the Cup variant comes at roundabout 1200kg (from memory guess it was Porsche's specs), with a minimum of 1170kg (organizer's regulations).

So it is maybe somehow possible to cut the weight down to that figure, given you have enough money to do it. wink

Zeltner stated that his Porsche would go at 1360 kg, with 360 PS. That's not competitive (3.78 kg/hp).

So I could do a 911 GT3 RS 4.0 RGT with 1190 kg and 350 hp, which yields exactly 3.4 kg/hp. smile

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Sa Nov 09, 2019 13:07    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:
That fits.

I have an article regarding the 39mm/350hp stuff.

And I have sources stating that the Cup variant comes at roundabout 1200kg (from memory guess it was Porsche's specs), with a minimum of 1170kg (organizer's regulations).

So it is maybe somehow possible to cut the weight down to that figure, given you have enough money to do it. wink

Zeltner stated that his Porsche would go at 1360 kg, with 360 PS. That's not competitive (3.78 kg/hp).

So I could do a 911 GT3 RS 4.0 RGT with 1190 kg and 350 hp, which yields exactly 3.4 kg/hp. smile




There were a few 997 in a few local championships that derived from the cup version with up to 450hp, and about 1200kg net weight, however they could not participate in FIA regulated competitions.

There were a few in Portugal, but they could only score points for regional ou national competitions, and when they participated in FIA rallyes they were put on a separate list. Happened here in Rali Vinho Madeira for a 2/3 years where the 911's were fighting for the win against R5 and actually did a 2-3 podium overall. Note that it was the R5's debut year. They are a lot more competitive now, so drivers don't complain about the 911's being too fast anymore.

I suppose this happened in Germany with Zeltner and other 911's around Europe before the RGT regulation was created. Nantet also won French Rally Championship in a 911 against S2000 armada in 2011

The 911's still race, now the 991 cup cars, but the R5's are just a lot more developed so there isn't really a fight there. These 991 still don't comply with the FIA RGT regulations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5dujdtUUHI

2019 with 991 cup cars

https://youtu.be/OvIRhDwOebw?t=338

Don't expect you making physics with these specs, because there's no real data available. Just wanted to show that they existed, but I agree that we should focus on cars that comply with the actual FIA regulations instead of "chasing ghosts"
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Sa Nov 09, 2019 16:46    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:
That fits.

I have an article regarding the 39mm/350hp stuff.

And I have sources stating that the Cup variant comes at roundabout 1200kg (from memory guess it was Porsche's specs), with a minimum of 1170kg (organizer's regulations).


https://www.porsche.com/luxembourg/fr/sportsandevents/motorsport/racingcars/911gt3cup-997

and

https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/spec/4242/Porsche-997-GT3-Cup.html

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:

So it is maybe somehow possible to cut the weight down to that figure, given you have enough money to do it. wink



So I could do a 911 GT3 RS 4.0 RGT with 1190 kg and 350 hp, which yields exactly 3.4 kg/hp. smile


Only it should be a version with a motor 3.8. Tuthill built the RGT on the basis of the GT3 Cup, and it was on such a 911 that Delecur started the rally
And that would be great! I hope that in this case you will make a physics version with 350 hp and a mass of 1200 kg.

I will hope and wait) Thank you!

PS: I found a video on youtube with a description of some characteristics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL_nvU9olSQ

But I do not know if they can be trusted.
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Sa Nov 09, 2019 18:24    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

AlDrive hat folgendes geschrieben:
WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:
That fits.

I have an article regarding the 39mm/350hp stuff.

And I have sources stating that the Cup variant comes at roundabout 1200kg (from memory guess it was Porsche's specs), with a minimum of 1170kg (organizer's regulations).


https://www.porsche.com/luxembourg/fr/sportsandevents/motorsport/racingcars/911gt3cup-997

and

https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/spec/4242/Porsche-997-GT3-Cup.html

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:

So it is maybe somehow possible to cut the weight down to that figure, given you have enough money to do it. wink



So I could do a 911 GT3 RS 4.0 RGT with 1190 kg and 350 hp, which yields exactly 3.4 kg/hp. smile


Only it should be a version with a motor 3.8. Tuthill built the RGT on the basis of the GT3 Cup, and it was on such a 911 that Delecur started the rally
And that would be great! I hope that in this case you will make a physics version with 350 hp and a mass of 1200 kg.

I will hope and wait) Thank you!

PS: I found a video on youtube with a description of some characteristics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL_nvU9olSQ

But I do not know if they can be trusted.


you can trust the data on the video. the driver is the owner of the shop that prepared the car. same shop is the official builder for citroen in Portugal and Spain, and also set up the 991's racing in Portugal
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Nov 10, 2019 19:06    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

2019-11-10
** updated car physics
** Porsche 911 GT3 RS (2010) RGT (based on 997 GT3 Cup)

So here we go, 350 hp and 1200 kg.

Feel free to test and enjoy ! wink

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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Nov 10, 2019 19:15    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

It says in rbrcit 350 hp and 1400 kg instead of 1200 kg.
 
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It says in rbrcit 350 hp and 1400 kg instead of 1200 kg.


Who drives that shit, the holy ghost ? wink

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mo Nov 11, 2019 10:38    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

The GT3 are never realy competitors against R5 or S2000 exept on tarmac championships. On gravel or snow this car have never any chance. I remember the discussion on german championship on rallys with some gravel parts (or the gravel tournament "Lausitzrallye"). The porsche driver allways commentate "undriveable" "dangerous" for the gravel parts.

So in my opinion, the cars for official FIA RGT regulations are good and have room for a own class. All other is something for fun, nice to have but should be made after all official reglemented cars (actual and from past).

cars without any official homologations should be never implemented. they distort the real competitions a lot. We have enough variety and choices for everyone with all the official cars

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mo Nov 11, 2019 14:00    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

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The GT3 are never realy competitors against R5 or S2000 exept on tarmac championships. On gravel or snow this car have never any chance. I remember the discussion on german championship on rallys with some gravel parts (or the gravel tournament "Lausitzrallye"). The porsche driver allways commentate "undriveable" "dangerous" for the gravel parts.

So in my opinion, the cars for official FIA RGT regulations are good and have room for a own class. All other is something for fun, nice to have but should be made after all official reglemented cars (actual and from past).

cars without any official homologations should be never implemented. they distort the real competitions a lot. We have enough variety and choices for everyone with all the official cars


Agree that for national championships those non FIA Gt's make no sense, but there are smaller championships, like Canay Islands local championship or similar, those 911's do make a good alternative as they are cheaper to buy and maintain than, for example, an R5. Here in Madeira they were very competitive and it's impossible to deny they are very noisy and the fans love them.

Yes, there is more than enough variety to choose from the official cars.
 
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Fabz hat folgendes geschrieben:
It says in rbrcit 350 hp and 1400 kg instead of 1200 kg.

After several updates of the Physics, I still have 390 hp to 1520 kg ! Rolling Eyes

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