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[Cristian Lamas]

it seems to me that 2rm cars on asphalt do not convey realism in ngp6 .... in fast sections they give the sensation of floating and skid excessively
in gravel NGP6 are a big step forward

[WorkerBee]

Cristian Lamas hat folgendes geschrieben:

it seems to me that 2rm cars on asphalt do not convey realism in ngp6 .... in fast sections they give the sensation of floating and skid excessively in gravel NGP6 are a big step forward

Thanks for pointing this out.

So you think I should not waste my time making physics for cars like Saxo vts gr.A, 206 gr.A, 106 gti, which you demanded ?
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[Fabz]

Pls waste your time and do them Clio already feels great so i can imagine what these cars will feel like with NGP6

[Cristian Lamas]

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:

Cristian Lamas hat folgendes geschrieben: it seems to me that 2rm cars on asphalt do not convey realism in ngp6 .... in fast sections they give the sensation of floating and skid excessively in gravel NGP6 are a big step forward Thanks for pointing this out. So you think I should not waste my time making physics for cars like Saxo vts gr.A, 206 gr.A, 106 gti, which you demanded ?

It is possible that the translator does not help me much when expressing myself ... it is not an attack, it is a constructive criticism since the ngp5 in fast curves gave me more sense of stability ... now it gives me the feeling that the 2rm skid in excess
greetings and my apologies for the misunderstanding

[WorkerBee]

2019-10-27
* new car
** Porsche 911 GT3 RS (2010) RGT (model by Maxime & Leiro)

Note that this car is built according to the RGT spec, so maybe a little bit slower than the previous 911 GT3 model.

Anyway, have fun (creating setups, as usual) !
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[AlDrive]

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:

2019-10-27 Note that this car is built according to the RGT spec, so maybe a little bit slower than the previous 911 GT3 model. Anyway, have fun (creating setups, as usual) !

In the RGT championship, Romain Dumas participated in the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0l RGT monster with a capacity of 500 forces and a curb weight of 1200 kg.
But you again decided to make a disabled person out of the Porsche 911 RGT specification.

[WorkerBee]

AlDrive hat folgendes geschrieben:

In the RGT championship, Romain Dumas participated in the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0l RGT monster with a capacity of 500 forces and a curb weight of 1200 kg. But you again decided to make a disabled person out of the Porsche 911 RGT specification.

You should better read the regulations again.

The RGT is specified as 3.4 kg/hp, and this is exactly what we have.

This applies to the Fiat 124 RGT, the Porsche GT3, and to the upcoming Aston Martin.

The Porsches were so fast that the organizers of the championships decided to slow them down by authorizing restrictors and weight limits (Spain, Germany).
Zeltner then actually sold his car to Pech because he was afraid of not being competitive ... at least this was mentioned in an article.

Honestly, I prefer having 3 or 4 competitive cars of equal performance than having just one monster which no organizer of a championship will allow to score points, other than "GT3 vs. GT3".

A simple "Thank you, Bee" would have been more appropriate, instead you start flaming again.
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[Oscar24_GZ]

Aston Martin
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[Prill]

Thank you Bee!
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[Lamda]

FIA Reg.
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[AlDrive]

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:

A simple "Thank you, Bee" would have been more appropriate, instead you start flaming again.

Thank you, Bee! The physics is excellent, you did a great job!

But I'm still not happy with what you did with the Porsche 911 RGT. I'll explain why later.

[WorkerBee]

2019-10-31
* new car
** Citroen DS3 R5 (model by Garyson)

RBRCIT/carList.ini updated.
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[WorkerBee]

2019-11-01
* new car
** Porsche 911 SC 3.0 Grp4 (model by MokuMoku)

I'm loving it !
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[PMSRT]

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:

2019-11-01 * new car ** Porsche 911 SC 3.0 Grp4 (model by MokuMoku) I'm loving it !

Danke vielmals - thanks a lot, love it too
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Fahrerperspektive, H-Schaltung mit Kupplung, NGP & Fmod etc pp in RBR => Realistischer Fahrspaß & wir sagen "JA zur Gruppe H" !

[bombus]

Du Glücklicher!!
Viel Spaß mit Deinem Lieblingsspielzeug!
Ich muss da wohl noch warten bis alle OL Autos gebastelt sind und mein
Subaru Impreza GDA WRC2002 S8!
Hat aber eh noch keine Eile, die Saison 2020 dauert ja noch paar Tage!
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[WorkerBee]

bombus hat folgendes geschrieben:

mein Subaru Impreza GDA WRC2002 S8!

Immer schön langsam, ein paar andere sind noch in der Pipeline ...
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[WorkerBee]

2019-11-02
* new car
** Toyota Celica 2000GT-FOUR RC (ST185) GrpA (model by gonzo_kool, kazuma_NARU)
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[wrcPuncture]

oh Bee..slow down we have only 8 slots! Anyway, great progress. Never before I had such a dilemma which cars to choose:-) THANK YOU!

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[tibi]

Rallysimfans.hu plugin has "unlimited" slots , so we glad any new car !

Thank's WorkerBee!.

[WorkerBee]

tibi hat folgendes geschrieben:

Rallysimfans.hu plugin has "unlimited" slots , so we glad any new car ! Thank's WorkerBee!.

You're welcome.

A few comments on the R5 cars (and NGP in general) ... please note that none of the cars ever "hits the ground" as one can think of when driving on very bumpy roads.

The sound you hear is originating from the bump stops, and is absolutely normal.
The R5 (tarmac default setup) have a total suspension travel of 70mm, the bump stop applies roundabout after 35mm spring travel, and the length of the bump stop is another 35mm.
70mm of wheel travel is quite a lot, regarding the low center of gravity you get with this setup.

Increasing the strut platform height actually shortens the bump stop, so that more spring travel is used before it is activated. Hence, 50mm platform height means 0mm bump stop.

Please note that the wheels are positioned perfectly, no matter the camera angle you use.

If you need more suspension travel, like maybe at Sieversdorf or Osli, you should increase the spring length.
This ultimately lifts the car, but remember to adjust the geometry afterwards (camber, toe).
Also note that bump steer is only perfect at default ride height, and may change slightly if you lift or lower the car.

Unfortunately I had to watch a fake NGP5 Polo at YT, which looks like a piece of shit.
I have not authorized anyone to make these physics.

Only the NGP6 Polo GTI is genuine NGP, anyone taking a good look at that car can confirm that.
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[wrcPuncture]

thank you for the info! If I don't like that sound, is it possible to disable it? or, do you know name of the .wav so I can do it myself..?

[Fabz]

It's Suspension= in the Audio.ini

[wrcPuncture]

Fabz hat folgendes geschrieben:

It's Suspension= in the Audio.ini

Are you sure? Because doesn't change for me.. but if I set Impacts=0, sounds like it is gone..

[jendabek]

wrcPuncture hat folgendes geschrieben:

Fabz hat folgendes geschrieben: It's Suspension= in the Audio.ini Are you sure? Because doesn't change for me.. but if I set Impacts=0, sounds like it is gone..

I know what you mean
Don't change anything in Audio.ini.

The WAVs containing this "rattling" are placed in Audio/Impact/Ranged, they are ordered by the impact level.
You need to lower the volume of the first 4 WAVs (00.wav - 03.wav), all other sounds are played in the case of more heavy impacts, so don't change it.
I have already done this, so you can download the WAVs and replace the original ones (they are very quiet because I don't like this effect much):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LTqsy32fiVciLIs4UZHet4283Rym8dtS
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[WorkerBee]

Our flat tire buddy is correct, setting

Impacts=0.0

in RBR\audio.ini does the trick of silencing the bump stops.

But you lose the higher impact sounds as well, which apply when hitting bigger obstacles, which is rarely the case.

Replacing the WAVs is possible, but not required.

The "Suspension" parameter indeed does not apply here, and is used for other purposes.
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