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 BeitragVerfasst am: Sa Okt 05, 2019 00:03    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

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Thanks for answering, I do all the steps, the setups appear but do not succeed, they do not apply.


Did you use NGP Switcher?
Install the RBR folder, and run, select NGP6 plugin.

http://www.rallysimfans.hu/rbr/downloads/Rallysimfans_NGP_Switcher/Rallysimfans_NGP_Switcher_setup_203.exe
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Okt 08, 2019 16:56    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

2019-10-08
* updated car physics
** Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4
** Subaru Impreza N15 R4

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Okt 08, 2019 18:01    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Hello i have a problem. I tried to update the carlist.ini right now and it gives me an error. IT says there is no carlist.ini and after that net framework crashes. RBRCIT is empty and crashes. RBRcit crashes for a few people including me.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Okt 08, 2019 18:04    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

It seems that links to the actual physics / models files haven't been updated yet in the carlist.ini.
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Okt 08, 2019 18:23    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Yeah, buddies, seems like Dropbox has finally screwed the hole carList.ini thing.

No matter what I do, copy, edit, overwrite, Dropbox insists on changing the URL of the file.
Only "restoring" to the version from 2019-10-03 recreates the link to a valid target URL.

That is an absolute desaster.

Any help is appreciated ...

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Okt 08, 2019 19:07    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

I use pretty reliable web hosting for my site, it would be pleasure for me to provide you FTP to store your config & other RBR related files there - let me know.
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Okt 08, 2019 20:14    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

That's not an option I guess.
But thanks anyway.

So the current carList.ini link is not usable anymore.

I have recreated the link and updated EDIT: link REMOVED RBRCIT.ini.

Please use this one. Or at least try to.

Yes, I know, this is ridiculous, but what should I do ?!
Having to provide a manual link for an automated tool ... WTF ???

I guess it is related to some update within Dropbox and/or Windows operating system, as some of my other links (SetupManager, TrainingDay) have been screwed totally as well.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mi Okt 09, 2019 16:19    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Hi guys,

after all that mess with that shitty DropBox we are working on a solution for the deployment of NGP6 over RBRCIT.

Means a new RBRCIT.ini and a reworked carList.ini, replacing all links accordingly.
Fortunately we have only 48 cars, so it is 88+x links to be updated.

Better now than never. smile

I guess this will take some days to finish.

The good news is, you have more time to test and enjoy !! biggrin

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Fr Okt 18, 2019 16:46    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Meanwhile ... looks like NGP6 is online at the CZ tournament plugin.

Have fun ! smile

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2019-10-18
* updated all links to ly-racing.de instead of DropBox
* new RBRCIT.ini points to new carList.ini, Version 6.45 2019-10-16
* carList.ini links point to ly-racing.de instead of DropBox
* DropBox is now obsolete !!!

* updated model of VW Polo GTI R5 to v1.2 by Ha3aP (physics remain unchanged)

See Download page for updated links to RBRCIT and new RBRCIT.ini.

Replace your RBRCIT.ini and download the new carList.ini via the menu ASAP !

I will remove the DropBox stuff soon, so I don't give a shit if someone complains afterwards.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Fr Okt 18, 2019 22:35    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

hello bee, amazing that the Czechs have enabled the ngp6, I expected them next year haha.

On another issue, there is the possibility of doing the physics for the new R4, since the models are there, a new category would be made since the models exist, basically they are R5 with less power. And they all have the same specs, there are 208, ds3, Swift, i20, mini, party, etc.

We would appreciate it very much, greetings from Argentina


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 BeitragVerfasst am: Sa Okt 19, 2019 15:17    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

I dont have words to describe my happiness. First I want to say THANK YOU to WorkerBee!

I tested today new NGP6 and i INSANE! Now gravel feeling is so nice! Grip level is perfect. Work of suspension... just beautyfull. And the new Force Feedback - it gives so much details!

Is a very big step foward. Cant wait to test it one more time. AMAZING!

Thank You WorkerBee once more! Genious!
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Sa Okt 19, 2019 23:31    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Hi everyone,

I just saw that NGP 6.0 is now deployed on the Czech Plugin, so I thought I'd give it a shot. I tried to install the car I use most of the time, which is the Skoda Fabia R5 (b) but when I enter into the stage I get a pretty clear error with the NGP plugin: Next Generation Physics rev. 744 INACTIVE!!! ( required rev. 744) NO GENUINE NGP CAR. At first I thought I'd mess up the installation, so I checked it and I tried with another car, the Hyundai i20 R5, and everything works fine. Are you having the same issue?
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Okt 20, 2019 01:24    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Ich habe heute gleich mal angetestet. Ey Leute unglaublich was Ihr da auf die Beine gestellt habt ich weis gar nicht was ich sagen soll. Das Fahrgefühl das ist soo feinfühlig man muss wirklich sehr aufpassen beim fahren. Die ganze Linearität von der Lenkung, alles was man einstellen kann, also echt ich bin immer noch sprachlos. Super Super Super!

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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Okt 20, 2019 06:28    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

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Hi everyone,

I just saw that NGP 6.0 is now deployed on the Czech Plugin, so I thought I'd give it a shot. I tried to install the car I use most of the time, which is the Skoda Fabia R5 (b) but when I enter into the stage I get a pretty clear error with the NGP plugin: Next Generation Physics rev. 744 INACTIVE!!! ( required rev. 744) NO GENUINE NGP CAR. At first I thought I'd mess up the installation, so I checked it and I tried with another car, the Hyundai i20 R5, and everything works fine. Are you having the same issue?


Looks like you have installed the NGP6 plugin. Check.

Looks like track physics are ok. Check.

But, the car physics are wrong.
When using RBRCIT you must "Update All Existing Physics" via the menu, after switching from 5.
I guess this because you seem to have been using this car before, but with NGP5 physics.
I guess the Hyundai was a fresh install, so you automatically have the NGP6 physics.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Okt 20, 2019 16:36    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

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Looks like you have installed the NGP6 plugin. Check.

Looks like track physics are ok. Check.

But, the car physics are wrong.
When using RBRCIT you must "Update All Existing Physics" via the menu, after switching from 5.
I guess this because you seem to have been using this car before, but with NGP5 physics.
I guess the Hyundai was a fresh install, so you automatically have the NGP6 physics.

Thanks for your answer, well here I have a problem because I'm using the game via Wine and RBRCIT doesn't work with it but it's not a big deal, I always installed cars by hand so I'm used to do it.

Here is my physics.rbz file: https://gofile.io/?c=Q0z184

As you can see it's basically the one that I downloaded with the NGP 6 plugin, but I replaced the h_accent with the Hyundai i20 R5 and the m_lancer with the Skoda Fabia R5 (b). As I said previously the Hyundai just works fine, I tried a couple of rallies with the Czech Plugin too.
I'm sorry if I'm bothering you with this, because it has nothing to do with the plugin itself which is a wonderful job from what I've seen so far.
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Okt 20, 2019 18:18    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

OK, so I tried your physics.rbz with the v1.2 model of the Fabia.

As expected, no problems.
Files are ok and identical to the ones in my repository.

Maybe related to the way Wine handles stuff.
I guess I can't help this time, as I do not want to hunt a ghost.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: So Okt 20, 2019 19:12    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:
OK, so I tried your physics.rbz with the v1.2 model of the Fabia.

As expected, no problems.
Files are ok and identical to the ones in my repository.

Maybe related to the way Wine handles stuff.
I guess I can't help this time, as I do not want to hunt a ghost.

That's enough, I will hunt it myself, at least I know that it's supposed to work, thank you
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mo Okt 21, 2019 12:06    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Thanks Workbee!!! Yesterday I was testing this i20 WRC and on land it is the best thing I ever tried in a driving game.
On tarmac I also improve a lot, now the car has an impressive grip, and when you have an error you pay it very expensive, it is much harder to correct the error.
Great work Workbee!! You are the best!
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bootywizard420 hat folgendes geschrieben:
WorkerBee hat folgendes geschrieben:
OK, so I tried your physics.rbz with the v1.2 model of the Fabia.

As expected, no problems.
Files are ok and identical to the ones in my repository.

Maybe related to the way Wine handles stuff.
I guess I can't help this time, as I do not want to hunt a ghost.

That's enough, I will hunt it myself, at least I know that it's supposed to work, thank you


Never mind.

After some googling it seems obvious that Windows and Linux/Wine are handling floating point values a little bit differently in borderline cases.

So some cars/physics will work in this environment, some will not.
Nothing to be especially worried about.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mo Okt 21, 2019 19:25    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

bootywizard420 hat folgendes geschrieben:

Thanks for your answer, well here I have a problem because I'm using the game via Wine and RBRCIT doesn't work with it but it's not a big deal, I always installed cars by hand so I'm used to do it.

Here is my physics.rbz file: https://gofile.io/?c=Q0z184

As you can see it's basically the one that I downloaded with the NGP 6 plugin, but I replaced the h_accent with the Hyundai i20 R5 and the m_lancer with the Skoda Fabia R5 (b). As I said previously the Hyundai just works fine, I tried a couple of rallies with the Czech Plugin too.
I'm sorry if I'm bothering you with this, because it has nothing to do with the plugin itself which is a wonderful job from what I've seen so far.


So, you use Linux with RBR.

Can you tell me more about that.
Any problems, performance issues, compatibility, etc.

I wanna use Linux/Ubuntu? but few year ago when I tested, there was problems with Linux + RBR, so I came back to Windows.
Maybe things are better now?
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Okt 22, 2019 04:45    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Guys, before thinking about using an emulator I would really go for a dual-boot setup.

I remember way back in the times of OS/2 we were proud to run Doom under OS/2, but in review I have to admit that this was quite a nonsense.

In our case, Wine pretends to fake Windows, but obviously it does not a perfect job, otherwise NGP would run flawlessly.
Which it doesn't.

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2019-10-22
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RBRCIT/carList.ini updated.

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Di Okt 22, 2019 17:12    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

Sorry, damned, mir hat´s den RBRCIT zerschossen - wollte updaten, wie üblich - nu is nur ein Fz da, aber es steht noch invalid dabei !
Auch die ältere rbrcit.ini funktioniert leider nicht mehr cry

@ hat sich grad erledigt - hab die RBRCIT.ini aus´m Downloadbereich geholt - geht wieder - sorry wollte nicht die Pferde scheu machen !

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 BeitragVerfasst am: Mi Okt 23, 2019 06:50    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

jansku22 hat folgendes geschrieben:
bootywizard420 hat folgendes geschrieben:

Thanks for your answer, well here I have a problem because I'm using the game via Wine and RBRCIT doesn't work with it but it's not a big deal, I always installed cars by hand so I'm used to do it.

Here is my physics.rbz file: https://gofile.io/?c=Q0z184

As you can see it's basically the one that I downloaded with the NGP 6 plugin, but I replaced the h_accent with the Hyundai i20 R5 and the m_lancer with the Skoda Fabia R5 (b). As I said previously the Hyundai just works fine, I tried a couple of rallies with the Czech Plugin too.
I'm sorry if I'm bothering you with this, because it has nothing to do with the plugin itself which is a wonderful job from what I've seen so far.


So, you use Linux with RBR.

Can you tell me more about that.
Any problems, performance issues, compatibility, etc.

I wanna use Linux/Ubuntu? but few year ago when I tested, there was problems with Linux + RBR, so I came back to Windows.
Maybe things are better now?

If you can't dual boot as WorkerBee suggested ( I can't at the moment) you can try for sure.
I had a problem back then with stuff disappearing through the stage but I solved it by disabling GLSL, apart from that everything was fine, but I can still use the Hyundai so I don't really care.
 
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 BeitragVerfasst am: Do Okt 24, 2019 12:17    Titel: NGP (Next Generation Physics) Plugin Antworten mit Zitat Back to top

bootywizard420 hat folgendes geschrieben:
If you can't dual boot as WorkerBee suggested ( I can't at the moment) you can try for sure.
I had a problem back then with stuff disappearing through the stage but I solved it by disabling GLSL, apart from that everything was fine, but I can still use the Hyundai so I don't really care.


Ok, I'll have to try Linux + RBR again some day...
 
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